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Dater’s Daily: “Too early to tell” on Grubauer talks



Philipp Grubauer

LEBANON, N.H. – Hello, from my lifelong friend (or close enough) Chris’ house, in New Hampshire. Chris and I bonded as friends in eighth grade here in New Hampshire, and are still hanging out 43 years later.

I took a few days off from doing much of anything, content-wise, but returned earlier this afternoon with a story about Nazem Kadri his tough offseason, and I bonded some with him too on that.

Like Naz, It’s been a rough few weeks for me personally, since I put my size 13 feet in my mouth with that ill-fated question to Nathan MacKinnon on Zoom when the playoffs ended. I have always thought of myself as kind of a screwup, except when it came to one thing: my professionalism on the job. Then, I go and foul that up too.

I have had a lot of people tell me they are sick of me feeling bad about this and to stop apologizing, and I will from now on. It was kind of a comedy of errors as to why I babbled such an incoherent question to No. 29, and I don’t blame anyone for wondering if I was totally out of my mind, chemically or otherwise, at that moment. No, I wasn’t. I just kind of choked under some self-imposed pressure on a Zoom call in which I was unprepared to ask the question. I didn’t realize I had my “hand up” on the call, then I was late unmuting myself, then, in haste, I just blurted a rambling, nonsensical question and thought, in my feeble mind, that I was in the locker room all of a sudden with Nate and could throw the F bomb around freely like normal in that situation. It was just a complete screwup by me.

I asked a very long, coherent question to Jared Bednar about two minutes after the ill-fated MacKinnon question, but nobody remembers that lol!

But I would say it was one of the worst 2-3 weeks of my life after that. I thought about quitting the business, even though this site has been very successful since its launch two years ago. I listened to the question on video and just couldn’t believe that was me. It was/is totally embarrassing.

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I want to be upfront and say I have some issues I must continually work on, as your humble correspondent. The biggest is kind of, what I would describe as, an anxiety/OCD issue. It’s not the kind of OCD thing where I have to wash my hands all day long or anything. I would try to more accurately describe it as something like, “I can’t shut my brain off, especially if there is something I think I have to worry about, either real or imagined.” 

For a long time, my solution to shutting off the noise from my brain was with alcohol or, later, prescription pills. I got some good therapy a few years ago, where I was able to recognize the “trouble” coming to the brain and deal with it through other, better, things such as: mindful meditation, the Bible, good music, more communication with friends and family, more communing with nature.

But there are still times when I feel like I’m ill-prepared with the storm clouds that come into the mind. That’s when I feel like I need to get away and go back home, to the people who have been there the longest in my life. So, thanks to Chris and to my mother and stepfather for taking me in this whole week. Chris and I are going to watch the Denmark-England game tomorrow. Chris is the biggest fan of Denmark, probably, in all of North America. He is praying for me to use every single DaterJinx known to man to get Denmark the win. Will they work or not?

So, some Avs and NHL notes/thoughts for a Tuesday:

  • I touched base with the Philipp Grubauer “camp” today and was told it’s “too early to tell” if things can be described as optimistic or not regarding a new contract between him and the Avs. That can be interpreted any way you want. All I can do is check in as the days progress and report back. I think he’ll be back with the Avs, but this is an unpredictable business.
  • I said it before and I’ll say it again though: I think the July 21 expansion draft will start the cascade of dominos with regard to a lot of Avs contract stuff. The Avs are still waiting to see if they lose a guy like Logan O’Connor, at a minimum salary, or a guy like Joonas Donskoi, at a $3.9 million cap hit. That will determine the next steps on guys like maybe Grubauer and Brandon Saad. The Avs will only have a week to get things done after that, though. July 28 is free-agent day.
  • Personally, I think Saad is gone.
  • Why do I think that?
  • Because the Avs just won’t have much cap room, either way, to sign him. I believe they DO want to sign Grubauer, along with Gabe Landeskog. That’s going to take up a good portion of their roughly $23 million in cap room. Don’t forget, Cale Makar is going to take up a huge chunk of that too.
  • I figure Makar will come in at $9 million, Landeskog at $7 million and Grubauer at $6 million. That’s the $23 million right there, minus the salary off-loaded to Seattle.
  • Maybe you can entice Saad back at $3-4 million with the savings, but I doubt it. Players most always will go to the highest bidder.
  • ESPN: It was tragic news, and the NHL did well to hold a moment of silence before Game 4 for Blue Jackets goalie Matiss Kivlenieks, who died this weekend in a fireworks accident at the age of 24. 
  • Daily Faceoff: Nashville Predators GM David Poile stirred an NHL trade rumor hornets’ nest on a local radio interview. He tipped his hand that Nashville is pushing the Seattle Kraken for a side deal so that Seattle will select a specific player. 
  • Philly Hockey Now: Columbus GM Jarmo Kekalainen says nearly every GM in the league has called about defenseman Seth Jones. The Philadelphia Flyers remain front runners. \
  • Detroit: From Red Wings historian, author, and Detroit Hockey Now beat writer Bob Duff–Here are five things you didn’t know about Gordie Howe.
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Adrian Dater - Kiss and Larry Bird fan. Writer with @Gambling and @Bookies, Avs Insider with 104.3 The Fan. Denver Post, SI, Bleacher Report alum, author of seven books.

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The six million dollar question–is Grubauer an elite goalie worth $6 mil per year. My opinion is no.

T-Town Josh

Treat yourself as you would treat others my friend. Best thing I ever heard and took to heart. You’re our guy, we’re with you.

Joshua Canfield

AD, thanks for the update. Honestly man, while your question to MacK was a huge gaffe, it wasn’t a big a deal. It happens to the best of us. I wouldn’t put too much thought into it. Mental lapse, lesson learned.

As for Grubauer, I have a feeling we will be seeing Grubi in an Avs sweater next season, of course, I don’t think any Avs faithful can attempt to predict what the roster will look like until the Expansion Draft is dealt with.

Nathan Edwards

I personally thought the question was funny as hell. I needed a good blast of sarcasm after that painful Vegas loss. Mackinnon facial expressions just cracked me up. He kind of looked as if, “why don’t we just get past the fucking 2nd round already” lol I loved Grubauer , but he had such a crappy game #6 against Vegas. Can’t see how they just don’t try to get him back. Sucks bad to lose Saad, but other teams are losing players as well with the Flat cap. I sill would like to see some kind of major trade involving… Read more »


AD-Chin up. We’re with you. And you are outstanding “as is.” Takes a good soul to undertake honest self-reflection. Takes a strong man to avoid temptation for self-defeating/downward spiral melancholia. You are that and more from what I have seen. So let’s…keep talking hockey and the like. That said, Landy, Saad, Cale, let Grubie move on, give Frankie a shot to start the year, be prepared to wheel/deal if that goes asunder. And please get more size, physicality, and grit on the back end.

Anna Roberts

The question you had for Mack was funny in a way. Maybe it needs to come to that. The only negative thing that came from his answer was other announcers were wondering if Mack wants to leave the Avs and Colorado. The last 4 games against the Knights, the refs were doing anything possible to make sure the Knights advance. Too many non calls going against players for the Avs. The League take care of the Knights. My opinion I don’t want to lose Saad, but Kadri I wouldn’t be surprised to see Sakic trade him. Like to see Sakic… Read more »


AD, I will never in a million years understand why you took such a who-the-hell-cares scenario like “asking a question with the F word” so damn hard… You were seriously considering quitting over it?? That only boggles my mind even further. Im not sure where you got the impression that uttering the F word is some kind of cardinal sin, but I assure you its not. Youre a boss. You make the rules. Your fans love you. Those who have a problem with any of that dont even matter. Also, Saad over Gru. Which one stepped up in the playoffs?… Read more »

Bry Phillips

we LOVE you AD. its been gone like dust in the wind for a bit now, and only minny trolls and the pathetic worms who folllow/write for MHH can even make that childish attempt to throw it in your face from now on. chin up boss!! your strength and resiliency only adds to your legend.

Last edited 1 year ago by Bry Phillips

FYI, AD, I missed your Zoom call question, as did probably a lot of your fans and subscribers. Life sometimes includes a few oh-shits, and only those who do nothing by playing it too safe, are the ones who almost never screw up. If you spend too much time looking in the rear view mirror, you’re gonna hit something! lol

Press on brother, you’re doing fine


If those cap hits you listed are accurate .. $9M for Makar (wow), then Kroenke is going to have to offer Nathan MacKinnon an ownership stake when he is re-signed .. at least double what they pay him now. I think Mac’s idea that he’d play for less in order to have a great team around him, will go out the window with those numbers .. (Cale will take a bridge for $5M)

Bear Bob

Adrian, Please continue to work on growing a thicker skin and putting out your excellent product. I’ve enjoyed your writing since you were with the News along with your book regarding the history of the Avs rivalry with the Dead Things. Very few of the sports writers in Denver seems to be able to analyze hockey very well leaving you as one of the better ones if not the best. I get really tired of looking at another site that constantly throws out statistics to make their point and refuses to see that the Avs are significantly undersized on the… Read more »

Yan Girard

Bob, The hockey changed significantly since the 20 last years. The speed, talent, mobility, IQ Hockey and character are qualities very important in today’s hockey. All the teams would like to have large players with all these qualities. Unfortunately, these players are very few in the NHL. The Avs has the chance to count on several players among the most skilled of the NHL with Mackinnon, Rantanen, Makar and Girard. It’s why the Avs is a possession of the puck team. It’s their identity. It’s very difficult for the other teams to apply a pressure on the Avs’s defensemen. Rarely,… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Alexander A.
The PG

Mistakes are where the learning happens.

You made it, recognized it, apologized for it, and now the learning happens / happened.

Keith S

I really appreciate the insight Adrian. I completely understand where you’re coming from in regard to asking “the question”. Even in the moment I could tell it wasn’t really you and it seemed like you rushed. Anyway, you’re right, you gotta quit apologizing. Glad you came to your senses and decided not to quit! You’ve overcome much bigger things so this is only a speed bump my friend. Grubauer played like an elite goalie for much of the shortened season, however, he wasn’t that same elite goalie in the series with the Knights. I don’t think one series should be… Read more »

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