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Dater’s Daily: Adios Jack Johnson, John Shannon Says Kadri An Islander “Very Soon”

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A good Wednesday to all. I’ve been in kinda sorta vacation mode the past week. Currently on Cape Cod, a place I lived in the 1980s. Already had the requisite clam chowder at Capt’n Parker’s, some lobstah and kayaked in the Bass River. But let’s do some hockey notes anyway, starting with news on Jack Johnson:

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  • JJ is now a Blackhawk, signing a one-year, $950,000 deal, according to NBC’s Charlie Roumeliotis.
  • My understanding is that the Avalanche wanted Johnson back, but with management still not having the Nazem Kadri situation settled, Johnson simply took another offer and got tired of waiting.
  • Jack Johnson, more than anything, wants to play – and the Blackhawks give him a much better opportunity to do that. He would have loved to come back to the Avalanche, but he didn’t want to just be a seventh guy, sitting in the press box many nights as a healthy scratch. The Avalanche’s top six is pretty much set in stone, and the team still has guys like Kurtis MacDermid and Brad Hunt around on D. So, there just didn’t seem to be a spot for JJ anymore.
  • He did a great job in his one year here, getting his first Stanley Cup ring in the process.
  • John Shannon, who has been on my podcast a couple of times and a good reporter, said on the “Sekeres and Price” podcast in Vancouver that Nazem Kadri will officially become a New York Islander “very soon.”
  • Of course, we’ve been hearing this kind of thing for multiple weeks now.
  • Calgary’s Jonathan Huberdeau will donate his brain for scientific research (Calgary Hockey Now)
  • Let’s hope that’s not for a good, long time.
  • NHL announced its Covid policy for the coming season (Hockey News).
  • What should the Washington Capitals be expecting from Dylan Strome?
  • Montreal Hockey Now’s Jimmy Murphy is reporting that the Montreal Canadiens have also been talking to the Islanders about forward Anthony Beauvillier.
  • Could the Vegas Golden Knights pry veteran goalie Semyon Varlamov out from the New York Islanders?
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dk

Dylan Strome would have been good for us. I don’t understand the disinterest in him… But it’s been a strange offseason, lots of guys getting less money than expected and still some unsigned high-dollar players.

Washington got him for a pretty good price at $3.5m. He outperformed that kind of money pretty handily last season with 48 points / 22 goals.

Glendon Gulliver

Both Stromes would have been a good addition.

Karl Keen

Dylan is considered a terrible skater and no speed. He did not fit our style.

dk

Yet people still want Stastny?

Brett Rainboth

YES PLEASE I would’ve loved to see him get 4×4 from the Avs. He was excellent with DeBrincat and Kane. This could be a good “prove it” deal that gets him paid next year

Karl Keen

Well I’m remiss to lose JJ, but understandable. MacDonald has a good opportunity to come in and be our 6th defenseman. If he plays well and provides some puck moving capabilities, which I think he has shown, then it gives us more reason to make Girard expendable at the trade deadline. Maybe we pick JJ back up too for a playoff run. If NYI wants to give Kadri a 8/9X6/7then good for him. I’m happy for him, but contract wise that is not a smart contract. We will see what he ends up with. If he gets a 8/9 X… Read more »

Bob Neal

I just find it hard to believe that Lou would offer the contract numbers you mentioned to Kadri.

Karl Keen

I thought I saw 7 x 7 being reported so I many new off a bit

Yan Girard

Girard is 24 years old, plays more than 21 minutes per game and is the 3rd defender of the team for two years. Girard played nearly 400 games (season + playoffs) in the NHL. MacDonald is 29 years old and has played only 43 games in the NHL. In some games, MacDonald even played as a forward. You’re not 100% sure that MacDonald could be the 6th defenseman for next season but if he manages to be, you mention that it could allow the team to trade Girard who has more games played in the playoffs than MacDonald in his… Read more »

Karl Keen

Its pointless to even respond at this point. You ignore that Girard can’t stay healthy in the playoffs, brings zero physical game, has no shot from the point that makes him dangerous on the powerplay, and that he is a trade asset for a 2nd line center or winger at the trade deadline.

Yan Girard

Stanley Cup teams do not trade important players from their roster to the trade deadline. The circumstances that lead a good team to make a significant transaction during the season are only when it underperforms. It turns out that the asset you’re referring to is more of an asset for the team than to complete a trade. If the team absolutely needs to improve the position in the center during the season, you have to expect that Compher, UFA in the summer of 2023, will be the sacrificed element.   If the team gets rid of all the players who… Read more »

Karl Keen

Skoula lol actually a good comparison to Girard. He was so impactful playing those 255 games in a row I had forgotten he even existed

Yan Girard

Do the same for Girard. Take a break and forget that he exists.

Glendon Gulliver

The issue with J.J. is what the possibility of Kadri re-signing has caused. He got a good deal with Chicago, where he can play more and get paid more. He was a great role player who did his job and was rewarded with the Stanley Cup. Good luck to him! I think Strome would have been a good addition to the Avs, especially at $3.5 million. With the maybe soon signing by the Islanders of Kadri, I hope the Avs can finalize what their plans are for the start of the year. I have reached the conclusion that experimenting with… Read more »

ricoflashback

Good luck to JJ and I wish him the best. He was a very important piece in winning the Stanley Cup this year and he’ll be missed. JJ was a beast the last couple games against the Lightning as he laid some heavy, heavy hits on Tampa, slowing down their attack. I honestly don’t know if Sakic has anything up his sleeve or if he thinks the team is good right now and he wants to wait for the trading deadline if any moves are necessary. I can understand that as there are two seasons in the NHL. Just get… Read more »

dk

Last I checked, MacFarland is in charge of roster decisions…

ricoflashback

Last I checked, all decisions go through Joe Sakic, period. I don’t care what title MacFarland has – it’s Joe’s show all the way until he retires from his position with the Avs.

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dk

Do you honestly believe MacFarland would have stuck around if Sakic did not give some autonomy? Would you accept a management promotion at your job only to find out that all of your decisions will be scrutinized? I know I wouldn’t, but I abhor micromanagement. And I just don’t see Joe as a micromanager. He’s way too successful to be that.

ricoflashback

Repeat – – all major roster decisions will have to have Joe’s approval. That’s not micromanaging. It’s having the final say in conjunction in working with MacFarland.

dk

My point is Sakic is not making the decisions. He simply gives his approval or denial. I’m pretty certain Joe didn’t march down to Chris’ office and demand to know why we let JJ go to the ‘Hawks. MacFarland was likely the one to make the decision not to sign him.

ricoflashback

Cape Cod – – where do you pak your caah? Pretty place but brutal water – – absolutely freezing. And hot as bejesus sand. I’ll take the Caribbean, thank you….

Scott Groginsky

The temperature of the Atlantic Ocean off the Cape Cod coast of Wellfleet was chilly, but definitely comfortable enough to swim in once again this summer, which I did several days; the Cape Cod Bay, Nantucket Sound, Wellfleet Harbor, and several ponds in the area were also certainly warm enough for swimming, as usual; and the beach sand along the ocean coast was easily cool enough to walk barefoot continuously.

ricoflashback

I wasn’t trying to be negative. My only experience with Cape Cod was going back for a wedding and staying at a cottage. It was a fun trip but the water was definitely muddy, murky and very cold. And the sand, which was not on the beach closest to the water, was unbearably hot. All personal preference. I’ll take the coral sand beaches of the Caribbean and the crystal blue/aqua water. Add a pool, a palapa umbrella with a cool drink and I’m in heaven.

Victory Donald

And Great Whites patrol those areas! Maybe Brandon will show off and go for a swim there?

Bob Neal

An ocean without waves is a waste of an ocean. I like to body surf but not what AD thinks body surfing is. I think that it would also be fun to surf but doubt I could stand up on the board. I love the ocean off the southeast coast in the summer. Very relaxing.

Victory Donald

At the Hawwwvaaaaaard Yaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrd

Bob Neal

I think that letting JJ get away is going to impact the defense more than most people think. I think that he was instrumental in the march to the Cup and played especially well against Tampa Bay. I wish him all the best and certainly can’t blame him for moving on. I’ve heard that the Kadri signing is imminent for the past month so will believe it when it becomes official. There is obviously some sticking point that had to be worked out for some time now. Once/if this happens it appears that the Av’s position will be to go… Read more »

ricoflashback

It won’t hurt, as much, in the regular, “Ice Capades” season but definitely a big loss for the playoffs. Maybe Joe will surprise us and finally trade Girard and his $5M salary for a stout defenseman at the trade deadline. No way they win the cup with Girard on defense in the playoffs. MacDonald is a nice player but he is not the physical “D” man you want. He got hammered last year and missed the rest of the season. You would think that Joe has learned his lesson about toughening up the team with the JJ and Manson acquisitions… Read more »

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Yan Girard

Against Edmonton and Tampa Bay, JJ played an average of 10 minutes 44 seconds. Bednar faced JJ in the opponent’s 3rd and 4th lines most of the time. The reality is that Bednar wanted to have any defenseman other than JJ on the ice to face McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Stamkos and company. JJ signed with Chicago not because the Avalanche were unable to pay him a $950,000 salary but rather because the team wasn’t guaranteeing him playing time. In these senses, injuries during the season are difficult to predict. If JJ was indispensable to the team’s success, the Avalanche would… Read more »

dk

For once, I agree with you.

ricoflashback

Girard is a liability in the playoffs and that’s the way it will always be. The “Ice Capades” season is only a precursor to the real hockey season. In the regular season – – you can get away with a Sammy Girard. In the playoffs, Girard will be mercilessly hammered every step of the way and his only hope is get rid of the puck before anyone gets close to him. The Avs proved that Girard is not needed to win the Stanley Cup.

Yan Girard

You forget that Girard played in 67 games in the regular season and 6 games in the playoffs. He was 3rd in playing time among the team’s defenders. If Girard is not on the team, Bednar must give Girard’s minutes to other defenders who will be more exposed. Byram missed much of the season and Manson played only at the end of the season with the team. There was no defender on the team who could take Girard’s minutes night after night. To fill the absence of Byram, Girard, Manson, Bednar would then have had to overtax Makar and Toews.… Read more »

Bob Neal

I do enjoy you distorting what never was previously stated. No one indicated that JJ helped win the Cup bc he shut down McDavid or that he should have played more than 10 minutes per game. The games that he did play in were dominated by a solid defensive structure from the entire defensive group and hard hitting particularly by JJ and Manson. You probably were watching another game but JJ’s hitting in Game 6 simply took the life out of the TB players and there was no doubt the Av’s were going to win another Cup. I do have… Read more »

Yan Girard

Against Edmonton and Tampa Bay, out of the 5 games played on the abroad, JJ played only once above 10 minutes (despite overtime) and it was in the 3rd game against Tampa Bay when the game had become out of reach of the Avalanche. All this to say that Bednar sought to expose JJ as little as possible, especially when he didn’t have the last change. I am not making it up. Look for yourself. A defender who plays about ten minutes a game is really not much. The level of play of MacDermid vs JJ is not far from… Read more »

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Aaron Rud

Kadri this. Kadri that. Blah, blah, blah. I’m honestly sick of him. Before anyone jumps me that I’m picking on Adrian, I’m NOT. I’m just sick of the Kadri drama.

Victory Donald

NYI would be stupid to do it but agreed time to move on…he is one mental gaff away for more suspension and hurting a team. Good riddance!

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