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Binnington OUT, could be fined; No discipline for Kadri

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ST. LOUIS – Jordan Binnington will miss the rest of Round 2 against the Avalanche, the St. Louis Blues announced today. The injury, suspected to be to a knee, was the result of Nazem Kadri and Calle Rosen colliding into him in the first period last night.

I’m told by my sources that Kadri will face no supplemental discipline over the incident. But, my sources say, Binnington is likely to be fined by the NHL for throwing a water bottle at Kadri while he was live on the air with TNT after the game.

Sooooooo….yeah, tomorrow night’s game here is going to be interesting. Will the Blues goon it up for physical revenge? If so, they can probably kiss goodbye their chances of winning this series, as the Avs will light ’em up on the power play and maybe put their own guys out with suspensions if they do anything horrible.

Should the Avs dress Kurtis MacDermid? Jared Bednar did say this morning that MacDermid is a possibility to play Game 4. But he also said it’s possible Jack Johnson and/or Ryan Murray play as well, in place of the injured Sam Girard, who will also miss the rest of the series with a broken sternum.

Nobody seems to want to talk about the Barbashev hit on Girard that put out one of the Avs’ better players, by the way, with a borderline dirty hit. Just like Robert Bortuzzo said today…

…Barbashev knew exactly what he was doing too. He hit a guy’s head into the glass from the side. Suspendable? Probably not, as it was more in the heat of the moment. But so was the Kadri/Binnington/Rosen situation. They were each going for a loose puck (after a juicy rebound given by Binner) and stuff happens.

Bortuzzo did add, as the clip above shows, “Having said that, we’re not going to misplace any of our energy moving forward here. We’re just trying to win the series.”

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Craig Berube said, “We’ve moved on from it. I really don’t want to talk about it anymore. Because, it doesn’t do anything to talk about it anymore. We’ve got to get focused for tomorrow’s game.”

Listen, we can’t, as Avs watchers, expect the Blues to just be like, “Oh, no problem, it was all clean and fine and dandy and it’s no problem at all with Kadri.” 

If Darcy Kuemper were injured on the same play, with someone like Schenn plowing into him, we’d all be screaming bloody murder too. But, I think the Blues privately know this was not a premeditated act by Kadri. They know. But they also have to say things that show they’re upset and appease their fans, too.

Lots of goalies get run into on loose pucks, just like what happened with Binnington. It just so happens, this time, that he had a knee injury come out of it as a result. It’s hockey, it happens.

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Glendon Gulliver

I wonder if Girard, while laying in his hospital bed reading all the tweets and watching TNT, is having a Brady Bunch moment and saying, “Binnington, Binnington, Binnington!”

Stuart Lange

Check on your tip jar. trying to contribute, but can’t get in.

Really sorry about Girard, always worry being undersized if he’s going to get hurt.

Stuart Lange

Adrian,
I’m to old to figure paypal out. Is there an address that I can mail a real check for your tip jar?

Stuart Lange

Thanks Adrian, I’ll subscribe till I die.

Dad

Clown page for a clown team

Joel Stefaniak

And yet you paid for it. 🤷‍♂️

Karl Keen

Lol, think how dumb it is to pay to come on and complain to a bunch of fans who could care less

Demetris Gray

Ummmm, you can post as a guest. Duh…

Demetris Gray

AD and I go way back. And his site is very good. I am too cheap as he once told me to buy a subscription, so I comment as a guest.

So the page is no clown, nor is AD. I like him more that he knows. And the Avalanche may be the clowns of the St. Louis Blues hockey club, who will not be laughing at the end (like last year)!

Hahahahahhaha!

Oh almost forgot, here is the real clown.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3463570-lightning-player-cracks-up-as-biden-calls-nhl-commissioner-gary-batman/

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JD16

There’s a reason no one flight Kadri after —-either immediately or later on— and it’s not because they like him.
As for Girard. I’m feeling for him. I myself have broke my sternum. It’s not fun and it’s not a quick recovery.

Zach Heiman

Would imagine every movement and even breathing would be painful…does not sound pleasant

Zach Heiman

AD, do you think Bednar/Sakic would consider going with 11 forwards and 7 D? Sammy G was playing big minutes and I hate to see EJ/JJ play too many minutes and become a liability. And get Mac and Rants a few extra shifts, maybe with a better matchup, so they can hopefully get rolling. They did it at the end of the season, but maybe that was more to shelter MacDermid.

ricoflashback

You’re dead wrong, A.D., about the Girard hit. It was not a dirty hit but a typical hard hit that you will see in the playoffs. How can any player keep from hitting Girard’s head into the boards with Sam’s diminutive size? It was a full body hit first and the size difference crushed Sammy in the process. Bednar already said it was not a dirty play or even a borderline dirty play. A hockey play is what he called it. Girard will always be played with heavy checking in the playoffs as will any other small defenseman in exploiting… Read more »

Glendon Gulliver

Everyone says Girard is short. He is listed as 5’10”, the same as Newhook and Cogliano. Maybe that is 5’10’ in skates, I do not know. Yes it is short for a defenseman, but Makar is listed as 5’11”. I think what is important to remember is what AD printed above, “You ask any player – a guy knows what he’s doing there.” Barbashev knew what he was doing. All of the big guys who hit Girard know what they are doing. Barbashev may not have wanted to break Girard’s sternum, but he definitely wanted to hurt him enough to… Read more »

Glendon Gulliver

Really! You look taller in your picture! 😉

ricoflashback

Right on, Wilt.

Demetris Gray

AD is the Wilt of Denver. Don’t tell anyone! 10K+! 🙂

Demetris Gray

Yes indeed. Sammy is out. Life goes on…

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Bob Neal

Well stated, the intent to hurt him was definitely there.

Demetris Gray

Zero doubt they targeted Girard due to his puck handling and skating. No doubt he was targted opportunitically and he stands little chance against a bigger man. He got rocked, period. It was also possible if the it timing was slightly different (DQ) he probable walked away in scathed. Just like with Binnington, he too could have walked away, had the situation varied slightly. All this happened, its over, and time to move on. Frankly, i have seen little pity for Girard on this site. He is a good skater, average passer, and below average shooter. I am not crying… Read more »

Karl Keen

Despite us being on common ground regarding Girard most of the year, I’ve departed from that narrative this postseason after objectively seeing a player do solid things to help us win. It was terrible to watch him after that hit and its terrible now to think of what he is going through including knowing that he is out of the playoffs

ricoflashback

Like I said, no one likes to see anyone get hurt but that’s what happens in the playoffs and especially to vulnerable players like Sammy. He was hit pretty hard last year and barely made it through the Vegas series. It’s like lions preying on weak antelope. How about Binnington? St. Louis was on its way to eliminating the Avs, IMHO, and then he gets hurt and is out of the playoffs for at least this round. Make no mistake, the doubt was creeping in the Avs’ heads and losing a goalie is far more important than losing any other… Read more »

Karl Keen

Yes and if he had played well through the entire playoffs then we would either have a stud at $5 million per year or very valuable trade chip. Now he is damaged goods again after being knocked out of the playoffs and will be untradeable in the offseason to help us resign a player like Kadri or Kuemper or another goalie. Regardless of our concerns about his size and ability to withstand the gruel of playoff hockey, it would have been better in the long run for our team if he wasn’t hurt to this degree.

Demetris Gray

Sakic had the change to peddle Sammy. Chariot would have worked well and Sammy would be playing in his home town.

The_Last_Ray_Gun

Chiarot is a bad player though. Like, not good at all. Jack Johnson is better.

ricoflashback

Forget about trading Girard. For some reason, Sakic is enamored with Sammy’s small, regular season game. The Avs are stuck with his bloated $5M contract for five years. Instead of having extra dollars to re-sign a Nichuskin or Lehkonen, the Avs are saddled with a player that is not built for the playoffs. Sakic and many other posters here are oblivious to the fact that Girard will always be targeted in the playoffs and a focus of other teams heavy checking due to his physical limitations. That will never change as long as Girard is in the league.

John Klingenstein

Dude…you are the king of bad takes. According to you, the only hitting in hockey apparently takes place in the NHL playoffs? What are you talking about. I’d say there’s less hitting in the NHL than even in Juniors. Girard dominated. Obviously he can play. What did he play 231 consecutive NHL games until covid? I guess that doesnt count. That plays last night was boarding to me. It was definitely not shoulder to shoulder. Ive watched it a bunch of times. Barbershev came in at virtually full speed and his shoulder made contact with Girards back after he had… Read more »

Demetris Gray

You are very emoitional man, John. Pity you!

Bob Neal

I also thought it was a board and it should not be allowed in the league given the extent of injury to Sammie. Let’s hope he recovers and can play hockey again as that’s a pretty severe injury to recover from.

huckleberry

This take is exactly right, from start to finish. Ron Swanson approves.

Demetris Gray

Flashback you are awesome and hilarious. Thank you for keeping it real.

Alalanchism is a mental disorder!

ricoflashback

Nothing ruins my day worse than losses. And ignorant comments from posters like the Klingensteiner. Binnington already has a Stanley Cup on his resume. The Clunkster has a Sammy Girard Jersey over his Teddy Bear to comfort him at night. Besides knowing nothing about hockey, he adds little to the conversation. Just a steady diatribe of worthless posts. Mommy and Daddy should cut off his internet access. But that would mean they would have to spend more time with him. An easy decision to make.

Demetris Gray

As Gordon Gecko said, “Don’t get emotional about stock.” Same lesson here…

dp10

I thought Barbashev was actually a bit late on the hit. Girard had already played the puck. To me it was borderline boarding and/or charging. Ultimately getting injured on the play is a bit of a freak thing to happen, but still Barbashev‘s Action seemed a bit reckless to me.

With the Binnington injury, you really can’t blame Kadri at all. If he had charged at Binnington as Nichushkin had in game 2, then it’s a different conversation, but he didn’t!

The_Last_Ray_Gun

It feels like pretty textbook charging by the text of the rule. Barbashev had no intention of playing the puck. He wanted the biggest hit he could dish out and didn’t care about anything else.

Joel Stefaniak

I think you dress Macdermid just to see how “moved on” the bloos are from this game. If you go the 7 D route give guys like Mac and Rants more ice time.

Demetris Gray

Agreed. But Avs want to take home a 3-1 lead and close it off. Better to do it in Denver.

Jeffrey Anderson

Really unfortunate for both players to be injured and miss rest of season (Girard) and series (Binnington). Avs will miss Girard more than all his haters on this site realize. He is probably the best D on the team at breaking out the puck because he’s an elite skater with great spin moves, best passer on the team, and smart. He is small and got crushed (as some of us feared), which is exactly what Barbashev intended with the hit. Agree w Bednar that it was clean by definition, but dangerous. Curious why no one is talking about that hit?… Read more »

ricoflashback

Makar is far better than Girard on breakouts and without a doubt, the best skater in the NHL along with Connor McDavid. The ice shrinks in the playoffs and Sam’s puck handling abilities are offset by his defensive liabilities. So, less puck handling from JJ but a stouter defense and protection in front of the net. Manson will not have to keep a third eye out for where Sammy is and can contribute more on offense. We’ll see how it all plays out.

Demetris Gray

Agreed. I focused on him around the crease and he could not move my dead grandmother in a wheel chair out from the creased. Too small. And that is his ultimate dilemna.

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Demetris Gray

Ummmm….best passer on the team…is a total stretch. His wrist shot is weak at best, not that much different from a pass. And his slapper is well below average for a defenseman!

Karl Keen

To lose your goalie is frustrating. I get that, but seeing Blues’ fan act like Kadri pre-planned all of this is something else. Sad. Delusional. Pathetic. Crazy. The puck was not even in the crease when Kadri went for it. Binnington was mostly out of his crease when Kadri and Rosen collided (which by the way, maybe we should have given this guy a bit more thought in the Kadri trade-he’s played well). It’s an unfortunate situation and I don’t want to beat any team by having their best players drop out during the season, but I am at a… Read more »

Demetris Gray

What no one has mentioned, had Binnington cuaght the shot and no rebound, none of this would have happened. Lesson to Keumper who also seems challenged catching the puck and controlling rebounds.

This is all about the hockey gods and fate.

slowpokeczech

I hadn’t seen that top-view camera of the Kadri collision. From ice level, it looked like Kadri drove the pack into Binnington.

Ghost of Roy

100% Kadri intended to run into Bennington and hurt him. Maybe not injure him but hurt him. The overhead view shows it clearly. Maybe not pre-meditated but intentional in the moment. Goaltender interference is a penalty and the NHL has been letting it go way too much this playoffs. Now tonight you see what happened with Lucic. Had the NHL called a few more in the 1st round they could have clamped down a little more on plays like this. I like physical hockey like most people but these are chicken shit plays. Watch what happens tomorrow night. It’s all… Read more »

Glendon Gulliver

The overhead shot is the best view of what happened. Binnington was at the right side of the crease and the rebound went left to a foot outside of the crease and directly in front of the net. Kadri and Rosen went directly towards the loose puck and not towards Binnington. When Kadri and Rosen were about 6 feet in front of the net, Binnington stuck out his left leg towards the puck and his body then followed putting him in the center of the crease. Kadri and Rosen collided about 2 feet in front of the puck and their… Read more »

Ghost of Roy

He knew what he was doing

The_Last_Ray_Gun

Yeah, this is preposterous.

Steve

STL fans remember Kadri’s 8 game suspension from last year with the chicken shit play on Faulk. You all act like he’s a choir boy. He knew what he was doing and got the best (remaining playoff) goalie out of the series. Trust me, the Blues won’t let this go unanswered before this series is over. Kadri and Kuemper better be ready.

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